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Text quoted from the AFA website:

"Procter & Gamble has resumed using explicit, open-mouth homosexual kissing in their soap opera, "As the World Turns." P&G decided to include this type of content as a commitment to "diversity." P&G stopped showing such scenes some months ago, but has now decided to again help promote the homosexual agenda which includes homosexual marriage.

Gay activists are hopeful that the P&G effort will desensitize viewers to the homosexual lifestyle and help make the unhealthy and immoral lifestyle more acceptable to society, especially to children and youth.

View a scene [link removed] from the April 23, 2008 episode by P&G. WARNING – content is repulsive! (Actually, this is the scene they link to. Such repulsive affection!)

"As the World Turns" is owned and controlled completely by P&G. No network made this decision. P&G alone made the decision to support the homosexual agenda."

P&G is conducting a phone poll to see if people are for or against the Luke/Noah storyline on As The World Turns. Even if you don't watch the show, please a moment to thwart homophobic bigotry. The poll is completely automated. You don't have to talk to anyone. And it takes all of a second to register your opinion.

Call 1-800-331-3774. Follow the automated menu to the poll on the Luke/Noah storyline, and please vote to support it.

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Date: 2008-05-01 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguebelle.livejournal.com
Done and done.

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Date: 2008-05-01 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-leprechaun.livejournal.com
I got this from [livejournal.com profile] spreadsothin, and oddly enough, those are the exact same words I commented on her post with. XD

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Date: 2008-05-01 04:57 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-05-01 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-leprechaun.livejournal.com
HA! Inorite? I had the littlest of squees at having the opportunity to use it.

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Date: 2008-05-01 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redqueenmeg.livejournal.com
I don't watch Luke and Noah, but I voted for them! Thanks for letting us know.

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Date: 2008-05-01 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_houdinilogic_/
If this were an internet poll I'd vote away, but making an intercontinental call for a show I've never watched is taking it a bit far.
Still, what a storm in a glass of water. Potentially pulling this couple offscreen is more offensive than to never go there in the first place.

So glad to live in the Netherlands.

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Date: 2008-05-02 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocknlobster.livejournal.com
Do you think that by calling to support a couple in a show one has never seen and may not even like is hugely different from calling to NOT support the same deal? I'm not asking this sarcastically, I'm really interested, because my first reaction to the request was, "Oh, but I don't like soap operas..." Doesn't us doing that sort of justify the AFA's attempts to politicize a soap opera? I find politicizing such things even more dangerous than even the possibility that P&G will change their storyline based on phone calls. (Which I doubt will happen...they're a hugely powerful company, and will probably do whatever the hell they want. And the AFA's claim that no network is partially responsible may very well be incorrect as well.)

My point is, I support not supporting anything blindly, no matter what. What if Luke is a whiny bitch and Noah is a walking gay stereotype? I have no idea, because I've never even heard of the show, yet I receive many pleas to vote for them. Should I? Shouldn't I? It's a fascinating philosophical dilemma. XD

*is clearly reveling in the philosophy and...still doesn't like soap operas*

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Date: 2008-05-02 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocknlobster.livejournal.com
Yet I could receive many please to vote for them. I haven't, and I probably WON'T, that was my failed attempt to express how these sort of things spread like, well, only internet things can. XD

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Date: 2008-05-02 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-leprechaun.livejournal.com
You've never heard of As the World Turns? I've watched maybe one episode of one soap opera my entire life, but I've heard of it.

Anyway. My thoughts. If an organization like the AFA is attempting to get a gay couple off the screen based solely on the principle that homosexuality is wrong, then it is our duty as those who embrace and support the homosexual lifestyle to push back against them. And why would P&G be conducting a poll if they weren't...y'know...trying to collect a sampling of public opinion? Obviously I don't know what they'll do with the info, but they're probably not just doing it for kicks.

If you're still worried about what the actual characters act like, watch the video I linked and look at some of the comments. It appears they're very sweet together.

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Date: 2008-05-02 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rocknlobster.livejournal.com
Nope, haven't heard of it. But, I tend to live under a rock as far as "popular" things. XD (Also I live in VA, so perhaps the networks here don't play it. I can't recall ever seeing it on the channel guide thinger, so...*shrug*)

Oh, I'm all for pushing back! Don't get me wrong. :P But, my inclination would be more to fight in ways other than participating in a poll with the specific goal of fighting the AFA, rather than of voting for/against a show I actually have an opinion about. (And I assure you, I am far too lazy and uninterested in soap operas to do actual research, so I know that my opinion is wholly theoretical and doesn't actually have much meaning in this context. Now, you add some aliens or vampires or spaceships or something to that soap opera, and maybe my mind would open up...XD) I can think of at least two or three ways of protesting and fighting back against the AFA that don't involve actually taking the poll. Why accept the battleground dictated to you by your opponent? Create your own battleground. XD [/Sun Tzu impression]

My other thought would be...do you accept the AFA framing of "homosexual lifestyle"? Because I always assumed that was an AFA bullshit term to hide their bigotry; I never thought that people who aren't "anti-gay" would use the term "homosexual lifestyle" or "homosexual agenda." To me, that implies that there's something divisive about it, something ulterior. And there IS, from the AFA perspective. But we do not share their perspective, so to me it makes more sense to avoid the AFA phrases and use phrases and framing that supports our views of how it shouldn't be divisive.


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